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5/12/2009 5:17 PM  

What fool defies me? Step forward you puny mortal and show yourself. GOD does not play games. GOD is not happy when he is disrespected. When GOD posts he posts for all to see!!

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5/12/2009 5:40 PM  

Don't get me started on the whole god thing


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5/12/2009 5:42 PM  

By the way, I do!!!!!!

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5/12/2009 5:47 PM  
Posted By n/a on 5/12/2009 5:17 PM

What fool defies me? Step forward you puny mortal and show yourself. GOD does not play games. GOD is not happy when he is disrespected. When GOD posts he posts for all to see!!



 

Let me preface this response by saying I am NOT a psychiatrist or psychologist (although I DID stay at a Holiday Inn Express once).

I think this poster has a god complex!

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5/12/2009 5:47 PM  
Posted By Seth on 5/12/2009 5:42 PM

By the way, I do!!!!!!



 

I'm a blasphemer so I do (defy "God") too!

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5/12/2009 6:01 PM  
So...is GOD a donk?
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5/12/2009 6:06 PM  
Posted By jmspaesq on 5/12/2009 5:47 PM
Posted By Seth on 5/12/2009 5:42 PM

By the way, I do!!!!!!



 

I'm a blasphemer so I do (defy "God") too!



 

I guess if you really are god and I'm defying you my pocket AA will DEFINITELY be broken tonight! 

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5/12/2009 6:19 PM  
I pretty sure this is flatware and monkeyboy but not sure which is which?

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5/12/2009 6:28 PM  
Posted By acstony on 5/12/2009 6:19 PM
I pretty sure this is flatware and monkeyboy but not sure which is which?



 

Wow that is 1:27 of my life that I will never get back...

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5/12/2009 7:18 PM  
Well now let me tell you what I think.

1) yea that movie cllip is yet another 1:27 of my life wasted....pile it on all the rest

2) I think God wants us to defy him. Its the only thing that makes sense to me. Come on, hes omnipotent, why does he want us groveling at his feet? You mean to tell me the best thing he could think of to do was create a bunch of beings to mindlessly worship him? If thats so hes an insecure God at best and deserves a spanking. No i think he wants us on Judgement day to punch him in the nose and say "im not your Biotch, lets go get a beer". I think the most telling evidence for this is the line in the bible "The Meek shall inheret the Earth". I take that literally, the meak, the ones who dont defy, get a plot of ground and nothing else.

3) Im am stating my real thoughts, just in a bit over the top silly way. But yea it does sum up my thoughts if there really is a god. Now the existance or non-existance, buy me a beer and I will tell you more.

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5/12/2009 7:47 PM  

The existence of god and why it is spread across all civilizations is because the human race simply had and still has no answer to certain questions. The idea of god is a way of explaining why things happens to us both good and bad.

Copernicus was chastised for his evidence that the earth was round; the church made him out to be a villain since they believed in geocentricity. It was their belief that the earth was the center of the universe, yet science disproved this.

 

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5/12/2009 9:14 PM  

Google zeigiest the movie... and watch

 

 


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5/12/2009 9:17 PM  

Seth, I believe the word you're looking for is God, not god.

 

Do not confuse the church with God. 

 

 

 


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5/12/2009 10:32 PM  
A joint meeting of Atheists International and the Dyslexia Society of American will be held Friday before the game at Champs.

Scheduled topic: "Is There a Dog?"
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5/13/2009 12:35 AM  
Posted By DiggerB on 5/12/2009 7:18 PM
Well now let me tell you what I think.

1) yea that movie cllip is yet another 1:27 of my life wasted....pile it on all the rest

2) I think God wants us to defy him. Its the only thing that makes sense to me. Come on, hes omnipotent, why does he want us groveling at his feet? You mean to tell me the best thing he could think of to do was create a bunch of beings to mindlessly worship him? If thats so hes an insecure God at best and deserves a spanking. No i think he wants us on Judgement day to punch him in the nose and say "im not your Biotch, lets go get a beer". I think the most telling evidence for this is the line in the bible "The Meek shall inheret the Earth". I take that literally, the meak, the ones who dont defy, get a plot of ground and nothing else.

3) Im am stating my real thoughts, just in a bit over the top silly way. But yea it does sum up my thoughts if there really is a god. Now the existance or non-existance, buy me a beer and I will tell you more.


#1 I hear ya dude
 

#2 Why do you assume that God is a "he?" 

I actually think that God may be a woman.

Here's my thinking:

a. God is unknowable to man. So is woman. To quote Nietzsche:

Supposing truth is a woman - what then? Are there not grounds for the suspicion that all philosophers, insofar as they were dogmatists, have been very inexpert about women? that the gruesome seriousness, the clumsy obtrusiveness with which they have usually approached truth so far have been awkward and very improper methods for winning a woman's heart? What is certain is that she has not allowed herself to be won: - and today every kind of dogmatism is left standing dispirited and discouraged. (F.Nietzsche, Beyond Good And Evil, Preface).

In the above God is no different than "truth" in terms of the ability of humans to "KNOW" it;

b. God is always right. So are women (have you EVER been "right" AND won an argument witha  woman? Seriously!);

c. God is smarter than man. So are women.  See above, and see Grateful Dead song "Women are Smarter" http://www.mp3lyrics.org/g/grateful-dead/women/ ;

d. God at times can be cruel, or at least seem cruel ([s]he may have her plan but it is beyond our understanding!) In my experience, women can be cruel too! (and DEFINITELY beyond my understanding);

e. Notwithstanding a, that I do NOT understand God or women, and notwithstanding d, that both God and women can be cruel, I love God and I love women!

#3 thanks for sharing! You buy ME a beer and I promise I won't share any more! But I will listen if you want to...of course I'm not sure who you actually are?

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5/13/2009 6:27 AM  

Chuck Norris defies God.



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5/13/2009 10:03 AM  
Now I understand the behavior some of you project on this site.
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5/13/2009 10:26 AM  
For the 5% of the world that believes in nothing, you must really be gamblers afterall. What if after you die you find out you were wrong? What if there is a God and a Heaven and a Hell and a judgement of your life? By then it's too late and you spent your entire existence making the ultimate gamble - all in for your soul and where you'll spend eternity. So if you're right and there is no God, you can't boast or brag about your being right because nothing exists. But if you're wrong, you're toast. No upside - not getting good odds. Just my two cents.

You might not believe in God, but God still believes in you!
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5/13/2009 10:49 AM  
Posted By Shortpro on 5/13/2009 10:26 AM
For the 5% of the world that believes in nothing, you must really be gamblers afterall. What if after you die you find out you were wrong? What if there is a God and a Heaven and a Hell and a judgement of your life? By then it's too late and you spent your entire existence making the ultimate gamble - all in for your soul and where you'll spend eternity. So if you're right and there is no God, you can't boast or brag about your being right because nothing exists. But if you're wrong, you're toast. No upside - not getting good odds. Just my two cents.

You might not believe in God, but God still believes in you!



 

There's about 50,000 known gods throughout human history. The chances that your god is the correct one is pretty slim. So...who's gambling?

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5/13/2009 11:36 AM  
Posted By Shortpro on 5/13/2009 10:26 AM
For the 5% of the world that believes in nothing, you must really be gamblers afterall. What if after you die you find out you were wrong? What if there is a God and a Heaven and a Hell and a judgement of your life? By then it's too late and you spent your entire existence making the ultimate gamble - all in for your soul and where you'll spend eternity. So if you're right and there is no God, you can't boast or brag about your being right because nothing exists. But if you're wrong, you're toast. No upside - not getting good odds. Just my two cents.

You might not believe in God, but God still believes in you!

 

Humans do not have answers to all questions. It is perfectly understandable that many rely on the idea of God for comforting. Your notion of an afterlife is one that compforts those who fear death.

Also, isn't it possible that after being told by your parents, teachers and society about the idea of God, it has been imposed on you?? Most people who believe in God have been told since birth....those who find God later in life usually have to have something awful happen to them and are searching for answers as to why (e.g. alcoholism, death of a loved one). These answers are easily attained considering the ambuguity of religion.

Also, the idea of God is much like the idea of Santa Claus....you better be good.....you better be good or you're not going to get any presents this year!! (i.e. get into heaven). Isn't it possible the idea of God is simply a more elaborate story. We make children believe that there is a man in a sleigh with all of the presents for every child in the world and he delivers them all in one night. Oh yeah, and he flys that sleigh with reindeer pulling it. Oh yeah, and the most famous reindeer has a glowing red nose in case of bad weather. (which I am sure on some stormy night some creative fellow told their child that because they were worried Santa wouldn't find their house)Oh yeah, and he lives forever.

Some of these children believe when there are no presents, it is for the fact they were not good enough during the year (sin). Meanwhile, all along the parents have no money because the father lost his job. This leads to them thinking they had done something wrong in the eyes of God (sin) when really he just wasn't that good at his job.

God is a explanation for answers we do not have or cannot perceive. Over the course of history, science and mathematics has been peeling away the layers of fallacy with which religion has imposed. Before the theory of evolution, people believed that the earth was built less than 10000 years ago. Now we find things that are 1 billion years old, yet people still believe in creationism because it has been told to them by others. They essentially ignore physical and scientific evidence because they are clouded by what they have been told over and over again.

A simply example is this. If all of your life you were told that the state you were born in was Pennsylvania (creationism)and somewhere down the road you were told by someone else who had evidence that the state was actually named New Jersey (evolution). Would you believe them or would you remain convinced it was named Pennsylvania??

If there is an afterlife and I lead my life in a moral and ethical manner, you're telling me I will not be permitted into heaven because I didn't buy into something with which there is no proof of and in fact seen discounting evidence to the contrary of many things God has told us?? And this God is supposed to love us?? Couldn't that be a way to recruit new members of that religion through fear of "burning in hell for all eternity" and line the pockets of their church??

Oh, the Lord doth work in mysterious ways!!!

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5/13/2009 11:36 AM  
Posted By llDayo on 5/13/2009 10:49 AM
Posted By Shortpro on 5/13/2009 10:26 AM
For the 5% of the world that believes in nothing, you must really be gamblers afterall. What if after you die you find out you were wrong? What if there is a God and a Heaven and a Hell and a judgement of your life? By then it's too late and you spent your entire existence making the ultimate gamble - all in for your soul and where you'll spend eternity. So if you're right and there is no God, you can't boast or brag about your being right because nothing exists. But if you're wrong, you're toast. No upside - not getting good odds. Just my two cents.

You might not believe in God, but God still believes in you!



 

There's about 50,000 known gods throughout human history. The chances that your god is the correct one is pretty slim. So...who's gambling?

What if after you die you find out that you were wrong? Yeah, what if you were a muslim and you spent your life praying five times a day and facing east and you get to judgment day and you find out that the whole time God really wanted you praying eight times a day and facing North and cause you didn't get it right, now you're screwed and going to hell? 

But who knew?

Or you're a jew and you carefully kept kosher your whole life and God really wanted you eating bacon the whole time?

etc.

So maybe there IS a God but we're all gambling in the dark as to what he or she really wants of us?

Assuming the 50,000 known gods throughout human history number is correct, you can assume that the believers in all those gods and religions each thought they were doing it right (rather than risking their souls etc.). But who really knows?

From a gambling perspective I think the best bet here is to pray to gods of all different religions and hope you got your bases covered!

Oh with the exception of Satan--if the Satanists are right, well, we're all pretty much screwed, right?

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5/13/2009 11:56 AM  

Yesterday, we had this dope (GOD) put up like 20 posts.  I took them all down and deleted his sign in.

He then came back on and posted more, including this one.  I deleted all of them except this one.

AND THIS IS WHY!!!

 

Nothing stirs up debate, argument, and pure in- fighting than Religion.  Hitting a two outer on the river after calling all streets comes a close second.

 

95% of the world believe in a supreme being.  Seth obviously has an objection to uniform religion.  As do I.  But I live my life according to the religion I was raised in.  I just so happen to choose so.

I educate my children in Catholicism for no other reason than I am too lazy to do it myself.  After they're older, they can choose which way their intellctual and spiritual curioisity takes them.

Growing up, I had an Aunt and Uncle (Uncle was a Rabbi) who were Jewsih, so I participated and learned a lot about the jewish faith as well.

I also investigated, and learned a lot about many other religious throughout history.  One thing can be said of all.  They all believed in a supreme being, and they all, at one point, had at least one messiah/ prophet/ son/ whatever.

Whether you choose to believe or follow a supreme being is up to you.  Whether you choose to believe religion was made up as a control mechanism, or something similar is your choice as well.  You can choose ot believe that it all spawns from our lack of understanding of space, or astonomy.  But to think the world we live on, and the universe we live in just so happened to show up, is a tough nut for me to swallow.

I"m an educated man, and continually strive to find answers.  Not to disprove or incite a conspiratorial subject, but to learn all possibilities and how they might effect our futures.

Humans are story tellers.  We all like to be the source of information, and when we tell it, we tell it through our eyes.  Our experience.  This is why written history is so unreliable, and usually why the truth falls somewhere in the middle.  Almost always.

 

 


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5/13/2009 12:03 PM  
Growing up, I had an Aunt and Uncle (Uncle was a Rabbi) who were Jewsih, so I participated and learned a lot about the jewish faith as well.


Jews unite!!!

Jim, I'll have to invite you over for passover next year. lol
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5/13/2009 12:09 PM  
Not too many good things happen for you in life do they Seth?
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5/13/2009 12:09 PM  

I agree, I will let my children decide for themselves as well. The reason that I think all religions have superior beings is simply for the fact that one of the oldest question still remains, "Why are we here?"

I understand people who are not convinced we just showed up here and a superior being is the closest answer people can get to given our perception of our lives. It also comforts people because it is as though there is someone watching over them and protecting them. I realize this is an important part of people's lives, I simply choose not to endorse the idea.

Science is continually opening our eyes to new things. I believe religion is there to fill in the gaps because we do not have the ability to properly perceive certain things.

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